Trungpa! (VCTR = Vidhyadhara Chogyam Trungpa Ringpoche, below...) (painting by Jaya) RK: Where does the sense of enlightenment or sacredness come from? Is it sacred because it comes out of the ultimate alaya? VCTR: You could say that. Ultimate alaya at least holds the potentialities of the whole thing. We could say that samsara came out of some kind of freedom. That is the basic logic of why anyone can attain enlightenment. RK: In meditation, is our approach to identify with